Has God forgiven ALL our sins, including the FUTURE ones?

“God has forgiven all my sins, past, present and future.”  This was heard from a couple of pulpits in the last year, and repeated online in a couple of Bible teachings.  It sounds reasonable given God’s view of time, but the subtlety of this heresy bears careful examination.

We have no argument against God’s forgiveness of past sins. (1 John 2:12)  Even present battles in which a man or woman struggles against weaknesses (1 John 2:1), or in which ignorance or misinformation misleads a follower of Jesus, are clearly forgivable in God’s (and our) eyes. (Acts 17:30; 1 Timothy 1:13)

It is this “future” forgiveness that gets us into theological and practical trouble.

“Ignorance of the law is no excuse” is an American expression of the Rule of Law and is applied in many circumstances, such as a speeder who drives faster than the speed limit, even when the speed limit sign is missing or has been defaced.  This idea comes from the original Law of Moses, Leviticus 5:15-17 which says,  “If anyone sins and does what is forbidden in any of the LORD’s commands, even though they do not know it, they are guilty and will be held responsible.  However, reading it in context, one cannot miss that this is describing a path to forgiveness, not condemnation.  The offense is still punishable, the offender is still guilty, but there is a clear path, that on discovery of one’s ignorance or lack of bad intention, there is forgiveness available, and the punishment is annulled.

Our courts understand this principle, giving out lesser punishment for “first-time” offenders than for repeat offenders.  The hope is that perhaps the criminal did not understand the significance of his crime, and will learn from a small or even “suspended” sentence, and will not return.  But such mercy is usually lacking for the repeat-offender who shows up before a court more than once for the same crime.  The punishment becomes more severe with each repeat.  Such is intuitively acceptable to any civilized person.

However, the forgiveness of “future” sin leads us into murky waters that are much less clear, and seriously dangerous.  It is based on the idea that God knows the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10) and that the atonement for our sins is based on the sacrifice of Jesus’ life on the cross, an event that was planned before the creation was completed. (Revelation 13:8)

We cannot argue with these two premises, clearly taught in the Bible.  The application of them to our future forgiveness, though, requires the assumption of a viewpoint that we cannot reach.  Only God knows the end from the beginning.  No one on earth shares that knowledge (Isaiah 40:13-14), and even those who have died do not seem to be clear on how and when events will unfold in this drama we call “life.” (Revelation 6:9-10)

The problem with the statement “God has forgiven my sins, past, present and future” lies in the verb.  “Has” is a past tense verb, admitting a constraint within time, while “future” is a time constraint of what has not yet occurred.  This is the same error the unbeliever makes when he thinks he will confound the believer with the question, “Can God make a rock too big for Himself to lift?”  If the believer says, “No,” the unbeliever jumps for joy because he thinks he has just “proven” there is something God cannot do.

However, within the argument is a logical fallacy of the absurd.  God’s “inability” to make a rock too large for Himself to lift is no more an “inability” than for His limitation that he cannot make “dry water” or “hot ice.”  Things He creates are logically consistent, and He cannot deny His character and make something logically inconsistent.  In the same way, though He may know how the end will turn out, and from His perspective, He will have forgiven all our sins by the time we arrive in Heaven, He has not yet forgiven our future sins from our perspective, simply because from our perspective we have not committed them yet!

So for us to presume that we know that God will forgive us for something we will do next week is to put ourselves in God’s place and announce our forgiveness before it has occurred in our perspective.  There is reassurance that if I sin unintentionally or in ignorance, I can rest in faith that God will forgive me.  But if I presume upon this, that I can sin, knowing that I am sinning and that I am going to keep on sinning, I run a danger of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, which is noted by Jesus as the one unforgivable sin! (Luke 12:8-10)

And what is “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?”  Blasphemy is defined as “the crime of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God.”  Since the Holy Spirit’s service to the world without God is to convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment,” (John 16:8 – ESV) one who blasphemes Him presents a continued and obstinate rejection of the gospel, and the the sin is unforgivable, simply because as long as a sinner remains in unbelief he voluntarily excludes himself from forgiveness.

It should be easy to see how unscrupulous people can warp this idea of God forgiving future sin as an excuse to sin: “Well, God has already forgiven me for what I am going to do this Thursday night.  I’ll just confess it to Him at the church on Sunday.”  But such thinking leads to a false repentance and rests on presumption of God’s perspective.  It is psychologically unsound and theologically dangerous.

It is wonderful to know that when we fail, we do not cease to be His redeemed children; he does not disown us for our acts of sin.  But this must always be balanced with the understanding that while God will never disown us, we can disown Him; i.e. we can cease to be His children by our choice.  Becoming a Christ-follower does not remove our free will; just as we freely receive His grace, we can reject it and this is cause for fear!  “Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord we persuade men.” (2 Corinthians 5:11 – Darby); “Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.” (Romans 11:22)

So we conclude God has NOT forgiven my or your future sins!  Only He knows the end from the beginning, and to assume we know that to is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit of God.  “He has shown you, oh mortal, what is good.  And what does the Lord require of you?  To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.”  Micah 6:8

Next Sunday, we will address the question of if and when God will judge America and how such judgment would occur.  Also, see for a different error in current vogue.

False Teachings Pose Dangers Even for Believers

There are many false teachings extant in the world at this time, and many that infect the Church, the followers of Jesus.  However, unlike some religious fanatics, Christ-followers do not believe the “cure” is to kill or destroy those who believe what is untrue, but rather to demonstrate the love of Jesus, to reason and show where the errors occur, and trust that the God of all knowledge (Colossians 1:9-12) will open hearts to receive the truth.  And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will. (2 Timothy 2:24-26).

There are two serious concerns in current theology that are worth mentioning because these false teachings have been heard from a couple of reputable sources, including pulpits and in online sermons in the last year:

  1.  “If anyone REALLY sees Jesus for who He is, he/she will WANT Him.”
  2.  “God has forgiven all my sins: past, present and FUTURE.”

Let’s address these, one this Sunday, and the second, next week.

This first false teaching, “If people saw Jesus for who He really is, they would want Him,” is a very attractive proposition.  How we wish this, but unfortunately it is simply not true, and the weight of Scripture clearly comes down against it.  When we prayerfully meet Father’s heart, our hearts must yearn with His, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance (2 Peter 3:9).  It is this desire that makes one effective in evangelism; it gives life to our spirits, hope to our message, and mercy in our meetings with people who do not yet know Jesus.

Many have been encouraged to make “Impact Lists” on which you name friends or associates that you begin to pray that will accept Jesus as their savior and find eternal life in Him.  This is a conspicuously good practice, and you would do well  to follow this.  Prayerfully select some names of those you know that do not serve God as Christ-followers, make an Impact List and pray daily for those on it, in hopes that you might lead them to Jesus.  You can and should pray for opportunities to meet with them, to open discussions about spiritual matters, to ask and answer the Great Questions of Life:
Big Questions1. Who are you?
2. Why are you here?
3. Where are you going?
4. Is there life after death?
5. If so, how can you prepare for it?

But the reality of Jesus words and the presence of our Enemy show that many will reject Him even when they see Him for who He really is!  Lucifer, the Enemy, saw Him and he rejected (Luke 10:18)!  His children will certainly do the same (John 8:44).  Do not let this slow you down in your quest for the lost who will want Jesus!  But prepare your heart so that you will not be discouraged in the face of the genuine evil of selfishness, whether it shows up in the form of pride, lust, envy, hatred, greed, gluttony, or sloth.

Consider Jesus’ own words: “If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’ “ John 15:24-25.

Jesus on trial.jpgAmong Jesus own disciples, men who spent three years with Him, KNEW Him as intimately as any, Judas still chose to betray Him to the religiously serious of the Pharisees and Sanhedrin.  And these Sanhedrin members were the ones who recognized His teachings better even than His own disciples!  Recall, it was the Sanhedrin that expected a resurrection against which they took steps to secure the tomb.  So it is false to claim they did not REALLY see Him for who He is.

Add to this that the prophets gave such a detailed account of Jesus, His birth, death and resurrection that the religious leaders were able to instruct Herod in regard to where He was to be born (Matthew 21:1-6).  The blindness and muteness Isaiah spoke of after describing Jesus’ eternal sacrifice was self-imposed; shepherds who lacked understanding because they had turned to their own way and sought their own gain (Isaiah 56:10-11).

This is important because many will get discouraged when we encounter absolute resistance to grace.  The balance of this is difficult; on the one hand, we do not want to discourage persistence in prayer, faithfulness in reaching out to the lost, and deep conviction that Jesus can supply every need!  On the other hand, sometimes pearls may be cast before swine (Matthew 7:6) and unneeded beatings may occur because someone futilely reaches out to one who has made his/her decision, and it was not for Jesus (Ephesians 4:17-19).

So how do you know if someone is beyond hope?  Unless the Spirit of God specifically reveals this to you, we must never assume that anyone is without hope (1 Corinthians 9:19-23). My encouragement is simply to prayerfully consider the balance of these weights.  Oh, and did I mention, you should pray!?  And when you think you are finished, pray some more! 😉  And The God Who Is There will give you wisdom (James 1:5).

Next week , let’s discuss a more subtle error: God forgives your sin: past, present and FUTURE.  Then, on August 2, I expect to address God’s coming judgment on America.  This could be interesting.

Construction continues . . . in uncertain times.

Well, we finished the garage floor, spent a couple days finishing the subflooring with its intrinsic work beneath the floor; squash blocks, web stiffeners, and blocking panels at the perimeter.  For details, if anyone is interested, go to http://www.woodbywy.com/library and locate the PDF file under Design and Specification, TIJoists Specifier Guide, pages 6-8.

So once the floor was in we were ready to start the first floor walls of ICFs (Insulated Concrete Forms).  So sorry I did not take many pictures of the subfloor work in process, but we were kinda busy with the subfloor! The hole is still open for the staircase which we should be able to put in next week, but with “construction treads,” the pieces you walk on, which will be rough 2×6 pieces of wood placed temporarily until we get under dry.

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As you can see, these pics were taken after we began putting up the first row of the ICF, which involved cleaning out the tops of the ones that had been in place below, from concrete that had spilled onto them during the first pour.  Framing the ICF doors and windows next.

And then I wonder about the times in which we live.  An interesting blog about the treaty with Iran is at this address: https://wordpress.com/read/post/feed/44556/752604638.

Then there’s serious scientific talk about the possibility of a major earthquake along the Cascadia Subduction Zone, which would make “San Andreas” look like a day in the park: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one?src=longreads.

Prophecies about America turning into a third-world economy based on holocausts that could occur?  A friend in Pakistan knocked over by a recent blast downtown, and no one came to help because in a previous blast, when they did, the arriving ambulance was loaded with explosives and made the helpers the new victims.  Another friend in Nepal helping rebuild after over 9000 people died in their recent earthquake.

So what will I do?  I’ll finish the house, I’ll pray for the peace of Jerusalem, I’ll pray for my friends around the world, and I will keep trusting my Father to keep everything under His control.  I may not know what tomorrow holds, but I know “Who” holds tomorrow and I know He holds my hand.

Same-sex marriage

I hold no illusions of being a great author, nor of having better words than men more intelligent who study more than me, nor of feeling that I must put in my two cents on every issue.  So for the second time, this blog is mostly the words of another, a man I highly respect for his clear and compassionate convictions.  Steve Elliott, who “serves on the staff at First Alliance Church” presented the following on the Sunday of July 5, 2015 following the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage.  Accompanying this text is a video with no relation to the subject of same-sex marriage.

This is the video of the FAC young men and women who went on a mountain hike with Jeremy Spainhour and a couple other adults . . . just to reorient them to following Jesus, or discipleship.  The “hike,” which was appropriately named “Into the Wild,” took them over 10 miles per day (16km), for at total of 53.7 miles (86.4km) and 11,358 feet (3,462m) of ascent  was in Colorado’s Weminuche Wilderness.

But for your consideration, a Christ-follower’s view of the June 26, 2015 Supreme Court ruling on Same-Sex Marriage:

“Before we go to prayer as a church this morning, I am compelled by my conscience as a pastor to express a few thoughts on the recent ruling by the Supreme Court which redefines the character and nature of marriage, ruling that same-sex marriage is now a legal right in every state of the union. The opinion that was rendered, while disappointing to followers of Jesus, does not however change the real truth about marriage. In Biblical terms, marriage is still a God-ordained, covenant relationship between a man and a woman.

“But what has changed with this ruling is the humanly created legal definition of marriage, which is now at variance with orthodox Biblical faith as it has been affirmed across the centuries and as it is embraced today by nearly two billion Christians in every nation on earth. Solomon wrote that “God made mankind upright, but men have gone in search of many schemes.” (Eccl. 7:29)

“So in one sense this ruling comes as no surprise. We should not expect that someone outside of a Christian world view should see things as we do. And to be candid, over history the church has always been at her best when she has not relied upon or had support from her culture and her courts.

“In dialogue with our Alliance president, Dr. John Stumbo, John remarked, ‘The current trajectory of our nation is a steady walk away from historic Christianity and Biblical teaching. Today’s ruling is yet one more marker on that dangerous trail.’

“However, in the Alliance family we hold Scripture as a higher authority than any human court. Like Peter said at his trial before the Sanhedrin in Acts 5, ‘We must obey God rather than man.’ (Acts 5:29) As the church of Jesus Christ we will never count on the courts or our culture to carry us or shelter us. As the church of Jesus Christ we will stand in the power of the Holy Spirit upon the bedrock of Scripture.

“So while commentators, politicians and judges may revise their understanding of marriage in response to the shifting trends and opinions of our culture, the followers of Jesus embrace God’s clear vision of marriage found in Matthew 19:4-6.

“Haven’t you read,” Jesus replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

“In the weeks and months ahead, the Alliance National Office will analyze the ruling and determine what steps we ought to take to ensure our First Amendment rights as churches. We will work along with the National Association of Evangelicals, as well as with other denominations, some of whom we might not agree with on any number of other theological points but who share with us the historic Biblical view of marriage.

“But let me say this: as clergy in the Alliance, we will never perform marriages that are contrary to the Biblical standard set out by our Creator God and affirmed by Jesus in Matthew 19. But also, we will respond with respect, compassion and the winsome love of Jesus Christ with those who do not share our values or our positions. We will not return evil for evil, but overcome evil with good. And we will never lose sight of the fact that regardless of who is on the Supreme Court, Jesus Christ is still Lord.

“So … how do we respond as the people of God? Well, over the past 35 years as a pastor, I have noticed a positive trend that we have wanted to be careful not to stigmatize single adults or marginalize people who have endured divorce by focusing on marriage as somehow being the ideal for human happiness. This is a grace-filled and life-giving position.

“But as I talk to single adults and divorced people, they want to see around them Biblical marriages that are healthy and strong and making it. So could it be that in our sensitivity to some we have subtly neglected affirming, celebrating and promoting the values and standards of Biblical marriage? We are well known for what we are against on this issue. But are we as well known for what we are for on this issue?

“Could it be that we have not said enough about what a Christian marriage fully is: a life-long covenant commitment of exclusive fidelity and faithfulness between a man and a woman? And how that is meant to be lived out and worked at?

“So perhaps this morning, the best initial way to respond to this ruling is to take a moment and honor the Biblical marriages in our church family. I want to invite our married couples to stand as I call out the number of years you have been married. 0-10. 10-20. 20-30. 30-40. (BTW, as of this morning, my Marilyn and I have been married 14,905 days so we are in the next group.) 40-50. Over 50. Let us honor their marriages with our applause. (editorial note: many stood with each group, a surprising amount even over 50 years!! 😉 )

“A lot has happened in our nation that is wrong and evil. The Supreme Court ruling was just one such setback. It is easy to be discouraged in times like these. But remember that the church has never belonged to the culture, even when it seemed to be. I encourage you to stay in the Word, to spend time in prayer and to live a life of love, just as you have always done. Hold fast and stay the course.

“So on this 4th of July weekend, let us now offer up prayers for our nation, which as the pledge of allegiance says is ‘one nation under God.’ Let us pray.”  Steve Elliott

Construction continues . . .

So the garage floor pour on June 22 began with filling the rest of the walls, in which we had left about two feet (0.2 M) unfilled to accommodate the rebar we had put in to anchor the floor in place.  This part of the pour was done with a line pump which is just a small trailer into which the concrete is poured from the truck and pumped into a two inch (5cm) heavy rubber hose that you see in the third and fourth photos.

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Then came the pour of the actual floor of the garage.  The trucks were able to just dump the concrete around the floor as Mark Henson’s excellent team of guys spread it around.  By the time they had poured just a little, his guys began screeding the edges.  Then they leveled the main part of the floor with a stiff 2×4 piece of wood, which worked as well in their skilled hands as a machine screed.

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As we finished the pour we noticed the concrete was taking a very long time to set up, which meant it would not be solid enough for finishing before dark set in.  Although we were not charged for the addition of “retarders” (chemicals that slow down the hardening of the concrete), the company had obviously added a LOT because it took over four hours for what would normally be about an hour hardening time.  The finishing took about three passes of the machine that has large fan blades and polishes the surface.  So Greg stayed behind into the night and finished the concrete and sealed it. The sealant made a nice polished finish to Mark Henson’s great job!  It was past 10pm before Greg was done!!

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The “shoring” under the garage floor will stay in place for 28 days while we finish framing the basement walls, the floor joists and the subfloor.

If you want to be great . . .

No one desires insignificance.  Each of us wants to feel needed or valued and we tend to hang around people who validate our viewpoints or affirm our beliefs.  Even if we disagree on significant issues, we enjoy being with people who at least respect us and listen to what we have to say (or blog  ;-). ).

This is the natural desire since Adam first looked through bleary eyes, wiping the sleep out of them, as he awoke to see Eve and announced, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh.”  Here was someone to spend time with besides God, who would stay with him after God left for the night.  God would come and walk in the Garden and talk with Adam at the end of each day, but now there was someone more like Adam, similar in relationship to the male and female animals he had just named; someone like him, yet different; someone who could validate his growing experiences with the world and God; someone who would make him feel important in ways that knowing God could not.  Lamech bragged to his family about how he had conquered an enemy (Genesis 4:19-24), and every man and woman since has looked for that same validation.

Then along came Jesus with a different set of priorities than the world into which He was born.  He challenged the most basic assumptions of the religious leaders of his day. (Matthew 5:21-7:39)  He told the people that what religion taught was woefully insufficient for finding God and becoming acceptable to Him. (Luke 18:10-14)  He set an example by washing his followers’ feet rather than being served, and told them to do the same! (John 13:3-17)

ButlerEverything natural about us rebels against servanthood.  Now some may enjoy serving.  There is a certain kind of honor in being a recognized butler of skill and discretion.  The caterer is very happy to serve his/her clientele . . . and get paid handsomely for doing so.  A serious “personal shopper” serves clients who prefer to not go to the grocer or department store, and a successful shopper can make a very good living serving others.

But servanthood is something more.  It is a voluntary slavery that sacrifices “my” wants for another’s.  Forced slavery is disgusting and inhumane, but when one chooses to be a slave to another, there comes with the choice a great freedom that borders on irresponsibility.  I say “borders on” because a good servant serves the master well, and not irresponsibly, but only the master!  There is tremendous relief in not being responsible for many of the decisions of the butler, the caterer, or the personal shopper.  Whatever the Master commands is the only thing that matters to the servant.

We may fear such servanthood because we think we will be used and taken advantage of . . . and that is exactly what may happen.  You see, the difference in “serving” and being a servant rests on who is in charge.  If we only serve for our own gain or recognition we are nothing more than the proud butler.  But if we are truly a servant we look for the good of the One we serve.  And He got crucified for serving!

“The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors.  But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves. For who is greater, the one who is at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who is at the table? But I am among you as one who serves.” Luke 2:25-27

Richard Foster, in Celebration of Discipline says, “In some ways we would prefer to hear Jesus’ call to deny father and mother, houses and land for the sake of the gospel than his word to wash feet. Radical self-denial gives the feel of adventure. If we forsake all, we even have the chance at glorious martyrdom. But in service we must experience the many little deaths of going beyond ourselves. Service banishes us to the mundane, the ordinary, the trivial.”

That said, we must recognize orders of servanthood in the Kingdom of God.  Our first and most obeisant service must be to Jesus who has bought us with His blood when He became the ultimate Servant to us!  He gave His life in His servanthood for us, so that we could share in His service to the rest of the world.  Secondly, we must become servants to our family. (1Timothy 5:8)  This extends then to the family of God in Christ Jesus, our brothers and sisters in faith waiting for our coming King. (Galatians 6:10)  And beyond this it extends to anyone in need! (Luke 10:30-37)

Recognition2Only be very careful of the “deceitful heart ” ( Jeremiah 17:9)!  If unexamined, you can do all sorts of tricks and subtleties to get attention for your servanthood, recognition that soothes the carnal nature of our hearts.  Though the works we do may be good, with the wrong motive, they are nothing more than wood, hay or straw (1 Corinthians 3:11-15)  Won’t it be surprising on that last day to see great Bible teachers or church leaders standing behind secretaries and truck drivers who are more honored for their genuine servanthood?  This is not to say all teachers, pastors, or leaders are phony, but many may struggle with these areas of heart-integrity.  And for that, we who enjoy their teaching or leadership should pray all the harder for them, serving them joyfully, entering into and joining their service, so that it will be a joy to them as well. (Hebrews 13:17)

Construction continues . . .

So on June 2, we completed the pour of the basement floor, but the guy hired for this said he would come back in two days to seal and cut the expansion joints.  Later I learned the typical procedure is to seal it the same day it is poured, so I wound up doing my own sealing of the concrete the next day and hired someone else to cut the joints into the work.

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While the pour went pretty smoothly, the finish was incomplete as is evident from the difference in color after the sealant went on.  Note the rough edge around the pipes and walls, that was not done well, but most of this will be covered by the floor covering of tile or carpet, and it will not matter for structural issues like strength or durability.

For the cost of framing the walls, and the small amount of interior wall we have, I decided David, Ben and I could do it without too much trouble.  The next week we spent putting in some of the basement walls and “shoring” for the deck which would be the garage floor.  This was designated by the engineer we hired to “design” the LiteDeck floor we are using for the garage.

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IMG_3501LiteDeck (http://liteform.com/litedeck-srs/) is a product of styrofoam, steel studs, rebar and concrete that is easily installed.  The two of us were able to easily lift the decking into place, precision of preparation of the walls being the key!  We were not out by more than an inch in any direction so the deck fit in very nicely without any trimming.  This was accomplished in just a couple of hours on June 15th, but we had to wait a couple days for the rebar that we ordered which had to go in the “valleys.”  So on the 17th we were able to pick up the #7 rebar and put it in the valleys of the LiteDeck.  The number on the rebar refers to how many 1/8ths of an inch in diameter it is measured; i.e. #4 rebar is 4/8 of an inch or 1/2 (1.25cm), and #7 is 7/8 of an inch (2.3cm), so almost a full inch in diameter.

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IMG_3532IMG_3526This was followed by adding styrofoam “hats” to the LiteDeck to stabilize it, close up the seams, and raise the valleys to 10″ (25.4cm) depth.  By the time we pour 4″ (10.1cm) of concrete above the hats, we will have 14″ (40.1cm) deep concrete in the valleys, like a bridge beam.  But a misstep in the low part of the valleys could be problematic!!  Ben was helping on his first ever construction job and slipped!!  Fortunately it was not easy to get hurt, and no significant damage was done ;-).  This was a simple patch with bracing underneath.

After laying the hats in place, we added a wire mesh and #5 rebar which was linked to the #7 rebar by the engineer’s design. To lift the mesh and #5s off the styrofoam we ran several #4 rebars crosswise to the beams of the pour.  So now we are ready for the concrete to go in.

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